by Igor Alexander
As a red-blooded heterosexual male, there’s nothing that I find objectionable about watching two attractive women making love. It’s not the lesbian sex act per se that bothers me, it’s everything that surrounds it.
If I thought that lesbians were just hedonistic women who were sexually attracted to other women and were primarily seeking pleasure and thrills, I would be more willing to overlook them. Hey, I can relate — girls are hot! But that’s just a male fantasy. Such lesbians don’t exist outside of pulp novel covers*, porn, and other products of men’s lascivious imaginations.
The vast majority of real lesbians, even the ones of the “lipstick” variety that guys drool over, are women who have serious issues with men. Lesbians aren’t so much indifferent to men as they are hostile. It’s almost impossible to tell where feminism ends and lesbianism begins. The lesbian counterculture is inextricably tied to feminism.
Stop thinking of lesbianism as if it were just a sex thing. It’s not. It’s also a counterculture, an identity, and a political movement. Women who sleep with women for purely sexual reasons don’t usually go around calling themselves lesbians.
I’ve heard people claim that lesbians don’t dislike men, that they just aren’t interested in them, but I have not found that to be true in most instances. Lesbians are obsessed with men. They pretend to be men. They date women that look like men. They employ sex toys that are precisely modeled after male genitalia. They’re into “gender” role-playing, and assume “male” and “female” roles in their relationships. They go to feminist rallies, attend workshops for “womyn,” work in rape counseling centers. Many of them can’t stop yapping about the bad experiences they claim to have had with men, even years after they say they have stopped dating men. They appear genuinely upset when a man doesn’t give their lifestyle the nod of approval; if lesbians are indifferent to men, why would they care?
Young lesbian couples parade down busy streets in the daytime, hand-in-hand, staging public displays of affection which are meant more for attracting men’s attention (and rubbing it in their faces) than as sincere expressions of fondness or desire for each other.
Numerous studies have indicated that only a small minority of the women calling themselves lesbians have never slept with a man, and a surprising number of women calling themselves lesbians have sex with men (frequently “gay” or bisexual men) on a regular basis. An Australian study found that lesbians in the survey had slept with more men on average than the heterosexual women had! These findings are consistent with what I’ve observed firsthand.**
For lesbians not caring about men, an awful lot of their attention seems to be either directly or indirectly focused on them.
A stronger case could be made that faggots are indifferent to women than that dykes are indifferent to men. Fags, for the most part, seem to be genuinely guided by the pleasure principle and not much else. Fags who would truly qualify as misogynistic are rare, whereas man-hating dykes are ubiquitous. There may be a tiny bit of latent misogyny in male homosexuality, but it doesn’t even approach the scope and severity of lesbian misandry.
It wouldn’t make much difference to fags if all the sexually-available women on the planet vanished tomorrow; they would quickly get over it. But if all the men on the planet were to vanish tomorrow, much of the impetus for becoming a lesbian would be gone. Much like feminism: if all the men vanished tomorrow, feminists would have no one left to hate and to blame all their problems on, and their movement would shrivel up and die, having lost its raison d’etre. Lesbianism really should be thought of more as a wholly-owned subsidiary of feminism, than as a seperate thing onto itself.
When a guy jerks off, he’s just jerking off; he’s doing it because it feels good. To a lesbian, “flicking the bean” is a political act, a part of the struggle to liberate herself from the invisible (because they’re imaginary) chains of male oppression, an act of insurgency against the patriarchy. A woman who calls herself a lesbian and lets herself be penetrated by another woman donning a strap-on rubber penis isn’t merely displaying same-sex attraction, she is also revealing something about how she feels about men. That something goes along the lines of: “I enjoy heterosexual intercourse enough to try to mimic it, but I don’t like men.”
Guys, lesbians hate you. Their whole scene is based on spite and envy towards men. The only reason you don’t get it is because your only exposure to lesbianism has been through the pages of Penthouse magazine or by watching cute Hollywood actresses rubbing their boobies together on cable television. The reality on the ground is quite a different matter. By all means, check out some lesbian clubs and hangouts in your city, read some lesbian blogs and magazines, watch some pornography that was made by lesbians, for lesbians; but remember to bring along a barf bag.
(Also see What’s With All The Lesbians?)
* Ironically, lesbian-themed pulp novels from the 50′s and 60′s, whose target audience was nominally men, are now celebrated in women’s studies programs. Many lesbians from that generation remember these novels as having been an important part of their initiation into the lesbian way of life. From a Wikipedia article on these books:
“Writer Donna Allegra explained why she purchased them in saying, ‘No matter how embarrassed and ashamed I felt when I went to the cash register to buy these books, it was absolutely necessary for me to have them. I needed them the way I needed food and shelter for survival.’”
Sounds rather like the embarassment a teenage boy might feel buying his first copy of Playboy, doesn’t it? Nerve-wracking and yet strangely exhilarating at the same time, like breaking the law or starting a fistfight. I wonder how many people get sucked into the homosexual lifestyle because of the initial nervous thrill they get from trying something new, different, and taboo? Of course, once the excitement wears off, fags have to start inhaling “poppers” (alkyl nitrites) just to get it up, while female homosexuals suffer a condition known as “lesbian bed death,” similar to the loss of sexual desire long-standing married couples sometimes experience. Would it be overly optimistic to hope that as homosexuality continues to lose its stigma due to the public relations efforts of the homosexual lobby, fewer people will be attracted to it? To some there’s no fruit more inviting than the one that is forbidden, and in some sectors of society, homosexuality is becoming downright banal.
Also from Wikipedia:
“Stephanie Foote, from the University of Illinois commented on the importance of lesbian pulp novels to the lesbian identity prior to feminism: ‘Pulps have been understood as signs of a secret history of readers, and they have been valued because they have been read. The more they are read, the more they are valued, and the more they are read, the closer the relationship between the very act of circulation and reading and the construction of a lesbian community becomes…Characters use the reading of novels as a way to understand that they are not alone.’”
Hearing this, one has to wonder if men, by purchasing these novels and thus keeping them in demand and on store shelves, weren’t inadvertently fueling a movement and counterculture that would soon become profoundly antagonistic towards them. How many a woman from that generation who became a lesbian would never even have thought of eschewing a heterosexual lifestyle if she hadn’t momentarily caught a glimpse of one of those covers on a drugstore shelf out of the corner of her eye? Could the widely disseminated pornography of today be having a similar effect on some of our young women?
Would it be accurate to assume that the publishers of these pulp novels, like the pornographers of today, were disproportionately Jewish? Could the seeds of the modern lesbian movement have been planted by Jewish publishers in the 50′s and 60′s?
** It’s interesting to note that the Greek poet Sappho, who was born around 600 B.C. on the island of Lesbos — from which we get the term “lesbian” — was married and had a child, and that most of the young women in her circle of companions left her group to marry men.

Death to all Lesbos
I don’t even know why I’m replying to this, but here goes:
“Women who sleep with women for purely sexual reasons don’t usually go
around calling themselves lesbians.”
I sure do. The women I’ve dated always have. Most of the women I sleep
with do, too.
“It’s almost impossible to tell where feminism ends and lesbianism
begins. The lesbian counterculture is inextricably tied to feminism.”
As a lesbian who is not a feminist… you’re completely right on that
point. It’s true. Most lesbians I know are feminists. It’s kind of a
pain in my ass. But I know plenty of feminists who are not lesbians.
Half a point to you, sir.
“Stop thinking of lesbianism as if it were just a sex thing.”
Yeah. It’s also a love thing sometimes. It’s not just that I’m
sexually attracted to women; I’m romantically attracted to them as
well. But I’m not going to stop thinking about the sex part, sorry.
It’s too fun.
“They pretend to be men. They date women that look like men. They
employ sex toys that are precisely modeled after male genitalia.
They’re into “gender” role-playing, and assume “male” and “female”
roles in their relationships.”
Nope, nope, yes, nope, nope. That’s just the lesbians I know. Of
course there are subcultures, but it’s not the majority.
“They appear genuinely upset when a man doesn’t give their lifestyle
the nod of approval; if lesbians are indifferent to men, why would
they care?”
Tolerance is not a sexual issue. Lesbians [and gay dudes and, I don't
know, interracial couples probably] get upset when men OR women don’t
approve of their lifestyle, and it’s not because they want to have sex
with them.
“Numerous studies have indicated that… a surprising number of women
calling themselves lesbians have sex with men (frequently “gay” or
bisexual men) on a regular basis.”
Seriously? Sex with gay men? I’d like to see that study, sir.
“These findings are consistent with what I’ve observed firsthand.”
Porn? [there's a 'hand' joke in there somewhere, I'm sure]
“When a guy jerks off, he’s just jerking off; he’s doing it because it
feels good. To a lesbian, “flicking the bean” is a political act, a
part of the struggle to liberate herself from the invisible (because
they’re imaginary) chains of male oppression”
What? Wrong! Getting off is awesome. I feel so sorry for any women
you’ve ever been with if you really don’t believe that women don’t
like getting off.
“Guys, lesbians hate you.”
But… most of my friends are guys! I live with guys! Hating them is
going to really strain my relationship with them, not to mention my
brother and father, who I adore.
“…cute Hollywood actresses rubbing their boobies together on cable
television.”
What’s that channel!?!? I might have to go digital.
“Female homosexuals suffer a condition known as “lesbian bed death,”
similar to the loss of sexual desire long-standing married couples
sometimes experience.”
Yeah, that happens… usually to long-standing ‘married’ couples.
Never been a problem for me or mine.
…that’s all.
Adelaidey wrote: I don’t even know why I’m replying to this, but here goes:
IA: You got to love posts that start with “I don’t even know why I’m replying…”
Adelaidey wrote: “Women who sleep with women for purely sexual reasons don’t usually go around calling themselves lesbians.”
I sure do. The women I’ve dated always have. Most of the women I sleep with do, too.
IA: You sleep with women for purely sexual reasons? That’s not what you say below.
Adelaidey wrote: “It’s almost impossible to tell where feminism ends and lesbianism begins. The lesbian counterculture is inextricably tied to feminism.”
As a lesbian who is not a feminist… you’re completely right on that point. It’s true. Most lesbians I know are feminists.
IA: I know it’s true. I wouldn’t have said it otherwise.
Adelaidey wrote: It’s kind of a pain in my ass.
IA: Why? Is that where they stick the dildo?
Adelaidey wrote: But I know plenty of feminists who are not lesbians.
IA: I didn’t say all feminists are lesbians. What I said is that most lesbians are feminists.
Adelaidey wrote: “Stop thinking of lesbianism as if it were just a sex thing.”
Yeah. It’s also a love thing sometimes. It’s not just that I’m sexually attracted to women; I’m romantically attracted to them as well.
IA: First, let’s note that you’re now contradicting your earlier claim of being a lesbian who’s attracted to women for purely sexual reasons.
But leaving that aside: sexual, romantic — what’s the difference? Could you feel romantic attraction to someone you didn’t feel sexually attracted to? If so, what’s preventing you from feeling romantic attraction towards men?
Adelaidey wrote: But I’m not going to stop thinking about the sex part, sorry.
It’s too fun.
IA: How cute.
That line wasn’t addressed to you anyways. It was addessed to men who fantasize sexually about lesbians (as is the whole essay, for that matter).
Adelaidey wrote: “They pretend to be men. They date women that look like men. They employ sex toys that are precisely modeled after male genitalia. They’re into “gender” role-playing, and assume “male” and “female” roles in their relationships.”
Nope, nope, yes, nope, nope.
IA: The one you answered yes to is significant enough for me to have written a paragraph about it further on.
Adelaidey wrote: That’s just the lesbians I know.
IA: Precisely. That’s just the lesbians you know.
Adelaidey wrote: Of course there are subcultures, but it’s not the majority.
IA: Butch dykes and “femmes” that sleep with them are just a tiny, insignificant part of the lesbian counterculture, uh? Do you think I just fell off the turnip truck?
Adelaidey wrote: “They appear genuinely upset when a man doesn’t give their lifestyle the nod of approval; if lesbians are indifferent to men, why would they care?”
Tolerance is not a sexual issue. Lesbians [and gay dudes and, I don't know, interracial couples probably] get upset when men OR women don’t approve of their lifestyle, and it’s not because they want to have sex with them.
IA: Don’t avoid the issue. It’s one thing to cry when you’re stung, and quite another to go out in public to provoke reactions from total strangers, particularly members of the opposite sex, or to feel the need to have your self-esteem propped up by heterosexual males, whom you claim to be indifferent to.
I suspect that in some cases there’s a dicktease phenomenon at work. Some of these women feel empowered by making men drool over them while simultaneously telling men that they are sexually unavailable. This is why they look so hurt whenever a man gives them the cold shoulder; they’re not getting the attention they’re after. Perhaps some of these lesbians are even secretly hoping that an alpha male will walk up and try to sweep them off their feet, even though they act as if this would be the last thing they would ever want.
These women, while claiming to have all their needs, both sexual and “romantic,” taken care of by other women, still ultimately depend upon men to have their femininity validated. They would no doubt feel very ugly, very unsure of their womanhood, if they were only getting this validation from their girlfriends. That’s because a good part of a woman’s attractiveness depends on her fertility, and fertility is something that only a man is capable of appreciating.
Others I think have a tendency to subconsciously view all men as a father figure; a nod of approval in these cases means daddy approves and is thus subdued, while the cold shoulder means daddy has foiled her attempts at being controlled once again and is still in charge. Needless to say, such women have issues with men and have trouble viewing relationships with men as anything other than power struggles. It’s not surprising women like this turn to lesbianism, since to appreciate heterosexuality to its fullest and derive the most pleasure and satisfaction from a heterosexual relationship, the woman must be willing to submit fully to the man. Without that level of trust, there can be no heterosexual love. These women do not trust men (perhaps because they were abused as children), and are therefore incapable of the submission which is the prerequisite for heterosexual love. That’s not to say that lesbianism is a panacea for these women, though.
I know many women and even some men who are reading this will find my suggestion that a woman should submit herself to her man shocking and even offensive, but that just illustrates the extent to which people have been brainwashed by feminism. People who will not accept this will probably not find much long-term happiness or contentment in heterosexual relationships (which again is not to say that they will find it in homosexual ones either).
It says a lot that this heterosexual masculine/feminine, dominant/submissive dynamic is something many lesbian couples feel the need to imitate (even though you deny that this is the case). Hasn’t it been said that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?
As for “tolerance,” not everyone is going to approve of your lifestyle. Get used to it. In China, you’d be thrown into an asylum for admitting you’re a lesbian, and in some parts of Africa, you’d literally be murdered. So you have a lot of nerve going around accusing people of “intolerance” just because they don’t grin at what you and your girlfriends do. Spoiled cunts like you don’t even understand the meaning of the word intolerance. I doubt you’ve experienced a true instance of intolerance in your entire career as a lesbian. If you had, you’d be more modest than you are.
Everyone has the right to disapprove of a lifestyle they consider immoral or offensive. For them to do so is not intolerance. For you to suggest that they don’t have the right to disapprove is intolerance.
And it’s entirely unreasonable for you to expect to get approval for your lifestyle from heterosexual males. Sure, you’ll find approval from soft, gelded, feminized men like your dad, or from sexually immature boys who will use your lesbianism as masturbation fodder. But approval from real men, the ones who can’t be controlled through their cocks or their emotions? Not likely.
I suppose that explains why lesbians are forced to sleep with their gay friends when they’re in the mood for a real (as opposed to a plastic) cock.
Adelaidey wrote: “Numerous studies have indicated that… a surprising number of women calling themselves lesbians have sex with men (frequently “gay” or bisexual men) on a regular basis.”
Seriously? Sex with gay men? I’d like to see that study, sir.
IA: To read the actual studies, you’ll have to go to a medical library, but these links should get you started:
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/homosexuality/ho0075.html
http://www.narth.com/docs/josrrev.html
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/331/14/923
Adelaidey wrote: “These findings are consistent with what I’ve observed firsthand.”
Porn? [there's a 'hand' joke in there somewhere, I'm sure]
IA: No, not porn. The lesbians I have known in real life.
Adelaidey wrote: “When a guy jerks off, he’s just jerking off; he’s doing it because it feels good. To a lesbian, “flicking the bean” is a political act, a part of the struggle to liberate herself from the invisible (because they’re imaginary) chains of male oppression”
What? Wrong! Getting off is awesome. I feel so sorry for any women you’ve ever been with if you really don’t believe that women don’t like getting off.
IA: I didn’t say women don’t enjoy getting off, nor do I believe that to be true. I didn’t say lesbians don’t enjoy getting off, either; what I said is that for lesbians, sex is a political, and not merely pleasurable, activity. Their sexual activities can only be seperated from their feminist beliefs with great difficulty, if at all. Do you have reading comprehension problems?
Your knee-jerk response is typical of the politicized, feminist, lesbian view of the female orgasm. According to you, if a woman I’m with doesn’t achieve an orgasm, it must be my fault, right? God forbid sexual intercourse should ever occur without a woman having an orgasm! And intercourse without orgasm never happens with lesbian sex, right?
That is what you’re driving at, isn’t it, you homosexist bitch?
Here’s a 19-year-old “lesbian” talking about all those superior orgasms she’s experienced with her girlfriends:
http://community.livejournal.com/vaginapagina/14719887.html
*snicker*
I know why she isn’t cumming. It’s because what she really needs is a man, even if she hasn’t realized it yet.
Adelaidey wrote: “Guys, lesbians hate you.”
But… most of my friends are guys! I live with guys! Hating them is going to really strain my relationship with them, not to mention my brother and father, who I adore.
IA: Daddy must be real proud of his little lezzie. Does this mean no grandchildren for daddy, or are you and your girlfriend going to get around that problem with a turkey baster and the spunk of one of your male roommates?
Adelaidey wrote: “Female homosexuals suffer a condition known as “lesbian bed death,” similar to the loss of sexual desire long-standing married couples sometimes experience.”
Yeah, that happens… usually to long-standing ‘married’ couples. Never been a problem for me or mine.
IA: How old are you? Twenty? Give it time.
Adelaidey wrote: …that’s all.
IA: That’s all? I don’t know why you bothered replying either. The central point of the essay is that lesbianism is inextricably tied to feminism, and that’s the one point you didn’t even try refuting.
Despite the cutesy face you’ve tried to put on lesbianism,
1. I think that you are much more the feminist (and homosexual “rights” zealot) than you let on,
and,
2. I would be surprised if 10 years from now you were still calling yourself a lesbian. I bet you’re just one of the many suggestible young women who have gotten into lesbianism because muff diving and misandry happen to be fashionable at the moment.
Sex is always political between girls? I can’t believe that would be true. Shut up. You are a terrible person and a fool, scouring the internet to find young lesbianish girls to try to turn.
From Guy White’s blog:
“I just saw a story on FoxNews that says that bisexual teen girls are 7 times more likely to get pregnant than straight girls.
Nobody will say it so I will.
The reason is very simple. They are sluts.”
http://guywhite.wordpress.com/2008/12/18/new-study-sluts-are-more-likely-to-get-pregnant/
Just one question…are there any other sources than catholiceducation.org? I’m skeptical of Christian “science” institutions. Other than that, what a great read.
I don’t know. Not surprisingly, a lot of the literature that’s critical of homosexuality comes from religious sources.
In a way, it’s good that Christians are fighting the homosexual lobby, since no one else seems to be doing it, but it also tends to give the impression that the only people who are opposed to the lobby are Bible thumpers, which isn’t accurate. The homosexual lobby always tries to paint its opposition as being nothing but backwards religious fanatics, when the truth is, there are many rational reasons to be opposed to its agenda.
That’s why I’ve been writing so much about homosexuality on this blog — to show that not all opposition comes from the so-called “religious right.”
I also have to admit that I fear the Christians are going to wuss out and compromise on this issue like they do on everything else (just look at the pathetic disclaimer catholiceducation.org placed in front of that paper), so I’d like to see a non-religious opposition develop.
That particular paper (The Health Hazards of Gay Sex) is well-researched, though. The author cites his sources, most of which are medical and scientific journals. I’d trust what a Christian researcher had to say on the topic over what a researcher with a “gay rights” agenda had to say any day.
Glad you enjoyed the article!
I came across two articles today which further confirm that many women who call themselves lesbians like to sleep with men, particularly queer men. In addition, these articles confirm many of the other points I made in my post, such as the misandry of lesbianism, the ties to feminism, that lesbianism is more than anything a counterculture, that this counterculture appeals to anti-authoritarian “I hate my daddy” types and those who are in search of “new thrills,” etc (all of these points are so obvious that I almost feel silly making them, but to paraphrase Orwell, we’re living in times in which stating the obvious has become a revolutionary act). These articles are written from a pro-lesbian, heterophobe perspective, so you have to read between the lines, but it’s all there.
What’s interesting is that if a man were to make some of the statements contained in these articles, he’d be attacked as a liar, a paranoid, a pig, and a homophobe, but lesbians casually admit these things in their own literature. They even refer to men as “the enemy.” Anyone who after reading these articles doesn’t get that lesbianism as conceived of by today’s brainwashed MTV generation is a hoax and that it’s really a conspiracy against heterosexual white males and traditional society is too stupid to be worth talking to.
Lesbians admit to fucking fags and to masturbating over “gay man” porn, and yet expect to be taken seriously when they say they were “born that way,” with dubious studies by homosexual scientists as their “proof.” Wake up, people. You’re being taken for a ride. There are no “lesbians.” “Lesbians” are bisexuals with an axe to grind against men.
I get a kick out of how one of the articles tries to dismiss penis envy (which I am convinced, based on observing lesbians, is a real phenomenon) as “outdated Freudian twaddle,” while in the other article (published on the same site), the author repeats the familiar and very Freudian mantra of the homosexual movement that “homophobes” are really latent homosexuals (by the same logic, I suppose the reason so many queers hate Christianity is because they have a latent desire to be Christians).
Here are the articles:
Why do lesbians love gay man porn?
http://www.lesbilicious.co.uk/community/why-do-lesbians-love-gay-man-porn/
Why do lesbians hate bisexuals?
http://www.lesbilicious.co.uk/community/why-do-lesbians-hate-bisexuals/
Method
1. Put the fish in a pan and cover with the milk. Bring to a gentle simmer and poach the fish. This takes about 10 minutes. Remove the fish with a slotted spoon.
2. Fry the onion and the leeks in a little olive oil until softened. Remove from the heat and flake the fish into the onion and leeks, add the peas and mix gently together.
3. Peel and cut the potatoes into large chunks and put in a pan of cold water. Bring to the boil and cook until tender. Drain and put back into the saucepan. Add the cream and a knob of butter, season and mash.
4. For the white sauce: melt the butter in a small saucepan. Stir in the flour, mixing to a paste, then stir for 1-2 minutes over a medium heat taking care not to let it catch on the bottom. Add the milk gradually, and whisk constantly until it starts to simmer. Leave it to cook over a very low heat, stirring every couple of minutes until it thickens.
5. Preheat oven to 190C/Gas 5.
6. Mix the white sauce with the fish, onion and leeks and put this mixture into the bottom of an ovenproof dish. Spoon the mash over the top of the fish and vegetables and sprinkle with the cheese.
7. Bake in the oven for about 15 minutes until bubbling, then put under a preheated grill for a couple of minutes to crisp and brown the top. Serve.
Thanks for the recipe, fish4u. I expect it will be popular with my lesbian readers, who are fond of the taste of fish.
ALL LESBIANS ARE JUST FILTHY LOW LIFE PIGS TO BEGIN WITH, NO GREAT LOSS THERE.
FINALLY!!! SOMEONE WHO SPEAKS THE TRUTH!
I have had my unfortunate encounter with these types of women. They are all liars & are all man-haters. And that makes them sexist! They are homosexual because they are mentally ill or insane or both! Lesbians are crazy & they roam the Feminists community in many universities. Not to mention, they are always angry. Dykes are by far the worst & the most obnoxious. I can’t stand them! And I hate lesbians because they hate men. And as a man, I find there’s reasons both spiteful & sexist!
We can’t let these sick depraved “womyn” ruin our generation!